Friday, February 27, 2015

SHUTTING DOWN: Arizona Delegation Crosses Party Lines, Votes 6-3 Against Stopgap DHS Funding Bill (AZ Senators Vote "Aye")

Congressional Republicans tried to avert a midnight shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security today by passing a three-week funding bill.  Most of Arizona's Republican Congressmembers voted with Democrats in thwarting the stopgap measure.

Earlier today, the Senate overwhelmingly stripped the anti-Obama immigration executive action riders out of the bill and passed the DHS funding through September.  The 68-31 vote included Arizona Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake (both Republicans) voting "aye".

The drama was in the House, however.  Knowing that the stripped version would not fly there, Speaker John Boehner and Republican leadership put forward the three-week stopgap, and tried to get their colleagues to vote for it.

Three of Arizona's five Republicans withstood the pressure, and helped vote it down, 203-224.  Reps. Paul Gosar (R-CD4), Matt Salmon (R-CD5) and Trent Franks (R-CD8) were among the 52 Republicans to vote "nay".

On the flip side, House Democratic leadership applied a lot of pressure on its members to also oppose the three-week can-kicking.  However, Arizona's Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-CD9) joined 11 other Democrats in voting "aye".

Barring last minute developments, the Department will shut down tonight. "Non-essential" employees will be furloughed and the majority of DHS employees who are deemed "essential" will be required to continue working without a paycheck until a funding measure is passed.


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Thursday, February 26, 2015

WATCH: Sen. Flake Announces Commitment From AG-To-Be Lynch To Abide By Injunction (Pending Appeal) Stopping DACA/DAPA

As the Senate Judiciary Committee met this morning and announced their intentions on whether or not to support Loretta Lynch as the next Attorney General, Arizona Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ) announced that he (and two fellow Republicans) had just obtained a written commitment that Lynch would abide by the injunction against President Obama's immigration-related executive actions... at least until the Court of Appeals or Supreme Court reversed the decision.

According to Flake, the commitment is significant because of some question as to whether the injunction only applied in Texas or nationwide.

Flake and Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Orrin Hatch (R-UT) sent the letter to Lynch yesterday, and received a written reply.

The three Senators were then the only members of their party to vote to send the nomination to the floor of the Senate.  The vote was thus 12-8.


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Wednesday, February 25, 2015

WATCH: The McCain-Graham Anti-Obama Colloquy of the Day (aka, McCain AOCOTD)

Arizona Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and chamber buddy Lindsey Graham (R-SC) took their anti-Obama roadshow to the floor of the Senate today to continue blasting President Barack Obama for mishandling foreign affairs in numerous places around the world.

From Iran to Ukraine to Islamic extremism, the two took turns sharing credit for having predicted the problems that would result from previous Presidential actions.

The colloquy lasts nearly 28 minutes, and ended with McCain promising Ukrainians that he will "never give up, ever" until that nation is (again) free (from Putin) and democratic.


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WATCH THOSE BARBS: McSally Goes National In Border, Immigration Fence-Straddling; Favors Clean DHS Funding Bill... Or, Does She? (Answer: She Does.)

Arizona freshman Rep. Martha McSally (R-CD2) took (border) fence-straddling to the national stage today, as Congress shuffles towards a possible shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security.

She authored an op-ed column in the USA Today today* which seemed to make it pretty clear that she supported separating the DHS funding bill from the provisions to defund President Obama's immigration-related executive actions.  Here is her 2nd paragraph:

Now that he has defied even his own logic, the president's actions should be reversed, but not by withholding funding from the men and women who put their lives on the line to keep our country safe
McSally did blur the issue a bit toward the conclusion of her column by discussing the need for immigration reform. But even there, she ends by saying "Instead of playing games with the men and women who defend our homeland, Congress needs to get to work and do its job. That means securing our border and fixing our broken immigration system." (emphasis added)

Pretty clear, right?

No. when the Tucson Weekly's Jim Nintzel re-questioned McSally's spokesman about how the Congresswoman would vote if the House is presented with a stripped-down DHS funding bill.  Communications Director Patrick Ptak could only say that he "will keep you updated."

Of course, it would be VERY surprising if the House does face a DHS funding bill without the GOP's efforts to defund DACA/DAPA (aka Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents) and McSally were to vote against it.

After all, as Arizona's Politics reported last month, McSally was one of only 26 Republicans to vote against attaching the immigration riders to the funding bill in the first place.  At that time, she did not acknowledge that vote; in fact, her statement made it appear that she was all for it.

Does McSally think that the immigration hardliners in the Republican party (and her swing district) do not keep track of her more moderate votes or op-eds?  Or, that "establishment Republicans" and Democrats will look the other way as she continues to play footsie with the more conservative wing?

Refusing to acknowledge her obvious vote on the stripped-down bill that is going to be sent back to the House from the Senate is too cute by half.  And, it would be a shame if the barbs on that fence that she is straddling ripped her clothes.


* Even after 30+ years, I have not tired of using the "in the USA Today today" line. It is just fun to say aloud.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2015

READ: Reps. Sinema and McSally Play Both Sides In Today's Homeland Security/Immigration Debate

Today was a tricky one for many Representatives in swing districts, and Arizona Reps. Kyrsten Sinema (D-CD9) and Martha McSally (R-CD2) issued statements that ignored some of their thornier votes.

Arizona's Politics has been detailing the votes on some of the amendments related to immigration and President Obama's executive actions proposed by Republicans.  The amendments were attached to the Homeland Security funding bill.

While Sinema and McSally both voted the party line on the final bill - which passed 236-191 with only 2 Democrats and 10 Republicans crossing lines - both crossed party lines on at least one of the amendments.

Sinema was one of 14 Democrats to vote for Arizona colleague Matt Salmon's (R-CD5) amendment, and McSally was one of 26 Republicans to vote against the Blackburn amendment to defund the immigration-related executive actions.

Here are their statements after the smoke cleared.

Sinema
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema voted against H.R. 240, the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act. Funding for the Department of Homeland Security runs out on February 27th. Sinema released the following statement after the vote:
“Congress is jeopardizing Arizona’s security by playing this dangerous and irresponsible game. This bill prevents Homeland Security from prioritizing criminals and terrorists who represent the biggest threat to our country, and it cuts funding for the Southern Border and Approaches Campaign intended to keep our southern border secure.
“As Senator Flake has said, Congress should not use a national security funding bill to argue immigration differences.
“We need to work together in a bi-partisan way to fix our immigration problems, and I'll continue to reach out to my colleagues to help find solutions. It is going to take hard work, but Arizona has waited too long for the promise of immigration reform that secures our borders, addresses our workforce needs, and creates a tough but fair path to citizenship that includes paying fines and taxes. We cannot wait any longer.”
McSally:


WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Representative Martha McSally today voted to pass legislation to fund the Department of Homeland Security through fiscal year 2015. The bill provides additional funding for Customs and Border Protection agents to do their jobs while improving security along our border.
“I’m glad to see the House pass legislation to fund our homeland security assets and ensure those who protect our border have the resources they need,” said McSally. “Improving border security is something on which Southern Arizonans can agree, and today’s vote gets us closer to that goal, but it is only step one. We need to continue working to address our broken border strategy. That’s why I’m working with the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee to craft legislation that places more of our resources at the border and stops cartels, traffickers, and criminal organizations before they enter our communities.”
“By refusing to work with Congress and acting alone on immigration, the President has set a dangerous precedent that threatens the very Constitutional principles and separation of powers on which our country is founded. It’s critical that Congress, as the direct representation of the people, stand up for those principles. Going forward, our focus needs to be on securing our border and revamping the legal immigration system so it is consistent with our economic needs and provides a way for people who want to come here to work hard and contribute a simple, fast, and legal way to do so.”



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WATCH: AZ Freshman Rep. Ruben Gallego On C-Span's Washington Journal

Freshman Arizona Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-CD7) was interviewed this morning on C-Span's Washington Journal program.  Among the topics are immigration and veterans' health issues.  (Click on picture below for the entire interview.)


The transcript below is provided by C-Span; it is a little disjointed, but might be useful to you.

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GUEST
I WAS RETURNING FROM WAR. I GOT INVOLVED IN VETERANS
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Host
ISSUES BECAUSE WE WERE VERY MUCH BEING LEFT
00:00:33
GUEST
BEHIND. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS YOU SEE NOW, HEAR NOW THAT USED TO BE WORSE BACK IN THE DAY. A LOT OF US CAME BACK AND BECAME MORE POLITICALLY ACTIVE AND IT DOVE TAILED OFF OF A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN ARIZONA WITH SP 1070. EVENTUALLY SOMEBODY GAVE ME THE BADGE TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND I TOOK IT AND RAN FOR STATE REP. I WAS THERE FOR FOUR YEARS AND LOVED THE JOB I DID AND PLACE OPENED UP FOR CONGRESS. I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN. I FELT IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SERVE ARIZONA IN A GRANDER SCHEME HOST: HERE YOU ARE AND YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. GUEST: WE HAVE FOUR BIG
00:01:15
HOST
BASES IN ARIZONA. THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMY OF ARIZONA. I AM HAPPY TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. HOST:
00:01:21
GUEST
ONE OF THE FIRST VOTES YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE IS THE ISSUE OF HOMELAND SECURITY BUT IMMIGRATION. GIVE US
00:01:27
HOST
A SENSE OF THE BILL BEING VOTED ON TODAY. GUEST: THIS IS REALLY A BILL THAT IS ENTIRELY BASED AND AIMED AT PLACATING THE TEA PARTY BASE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
00:01:38
GUEST
THERE IS NO CAUTION THAT THIS BILL IS GOING TO GO ANYWHERE BEYOND CONGRESS. THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY VOTES IN THE SENATE FOR IT EVEN TO PASS WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT THEY WANT WHICH HE WILL STRIP A LOT OF FUNDING AWAY FROM ANY TYPE OF DEFERRED ACTION PROGRAM OR DAPA, A NEW PROGRAM, EXECUTIVE ACTION THAT THE PRESIDENT JUST RECOMMENDED. THESE ARE TIMES IT SHOULD BE SERIOUS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDING AND WE HAVE A SMALL ELEMENT OF THE RIGHT WHO REALLY ARE TAKING HOSTAGE THE HOME LAND SECURITY BILL FOR PURELY POLITICAL PURPOSES WHICH IS NOT GO TO GO ANYWHERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT JUST SLOWS DOWN THE WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT AND IT'S REAL SFOFRPT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF CONGRESS WHEN THE BIG TALK WAS ABOUT WORKING IN A BI-PARTISAN MANNER. HOST: THE LAST GUEST, HOUSE SPEAKER SAYS THESE ARE REACTIONS TO THE PRESIDENT'S OVERREACH AS IT WERE ON THESE KIND OF ISSUES. YOU DON'T
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HOST
SEE THAT? GUEST: THEY ARE TEMPER TANTRUMS. BECAUSE THEY ARE REACTIONS DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE
00:02:46
GUEST
TO REALIZE THAT THE REACTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT -- ACTION THE PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN ARE ENTIRELY BECAUSE THE CONGRESS NEVER MOVED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY A BI-PARTISAN GROUP OF SENATORS. WHAT I AMMING AT LEAST FROM ARIZONA -- WHAT I KNOW AT LEAST FROM ARIZONA AND I HAVE FRIENDS UNDER DEFERRED, IF THEY RECEIVED THEIR PAPER WORK, THEY HAVE OBTAINED JOBS, PAYING TAXES, GOING SCHOOL. SOME HAVE STARTED BUSINESSES. THIS IS GOOD FOR AMERICA. SOLDIER, NOW THE NEW EXECUTIVE ACTION PROGRAM FOR A PARTY THAT VALUES THEMSELVES AS A PARTY OF FAMILY VALUES, THEY ARE SAYING WE WILL ACTIVELY GO AFTER FAMILIES AND SEPARATE THEM, SEPARATE FATHERS FROM THEIR CHILDREN AND THAT IS I CAN LUS OR MOTHER FROM THE CHILDREN. IF YOU ARE THE PARTY OF FAMILY VALUES, YOU AT THIS POINT, YOU ARE SPEAKING PURE HYPOCRACY. HOST: FROM THE STATE YOU ARE AT AND YOU MENTIONED THE FRIENDS YOU HAVE. WHAT DO YOU HOME HOPE TO BRING TOE THIS GRAIMINGS
00:03:45
HOST
DEBATE IN THE GUEST: WHAT I HOPE TO BRING TO THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION DEBATE IS TO PERSONALIZE THE LIVES OF A LOT OF
00:03:53
GUEST
THESE IMMIGRANTS AND DAKA AND DAPA RECIPIENTS. THEY ARE AMERICAN IN EVERYTHING BUT THE FENCE THAT THEY CAME HERE, THEIR PARENTS BROUGHT THEM HERE WITHOUT THAT THEIR KNOWLEDGE. ONE OF MY FIELD MANAGERS WHO IS A RECIPIENT DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL HE WENT TO TRY TO JOIN THE MARCHINES NEW YORK, HELLO. AS MY GUEST: WE NEED BORDER ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED A GOOD PROGRAM THAT IS PICKING
00:07:40
GUEST
UP PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY THAT ARE DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE ZERO CONNECTION TO THIS COUNTRY. NO ONE HERE IS ADVOCATING OPEN BORDERS. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME KIND OF CONNECTION TO THIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE THAT HAVE DAUGHTERS OR SONS THAT ARE U.S. CITIZENS OR WERE BROUGHT HERE WITHOUT THERE WILL SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEMSELVES RIGHT WITH THE GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN STAY HERE AND BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES THAT MAKE MONEY OFF OF WHAT I WOULD SAY IS RUSSIAN DOUBLE PROGRAMS BEST QUESTIONABLE PROGRAMS -- QUESTIONABLE PROGRAMS. THE GOVERNMENT IS HERE TO BE JUDICIOUS AND TO INTEGRATE A HUGE SECTION OF THIS POPULATION. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO STABILIZE IT WITH FULL RIGHT TO CITIZENSHIP. HOST: DON, FROM OKLAHOMA. CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.
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HOST
I WATCHED
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CALLER
THE HOUSE YESTERDAY. DEMOCRATS WOULD CALL THE IMMIGRANTS ILLEGAL. UNDER THAT SCENARIO, IF PEOPLE BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE, THEY ARE NOT ILLEGAL. IF PEOPLE BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE, AND SET UP HOUSE, IS IT OK? IS THAT LEGAL? GUEST: NO. THIS IS A COUNTRY, NOT A HOUSE. THIS IS A COUNTRY
00:09:26
GUEST
THAT HAS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND WE HAVE DUE PROCESS. FOR US TO AUTOMATICALLY CALL PEOPLE ILLEGAL WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS OR UNDERSTANDING THE TRUE NATURE OF WHAT THEY CROSSED IS, I THINK, EMOTIONAL AND REACTIONARY. I DO NOT DO THAT. I'M SORRY THAT YOU FEEL CONGRESS SHOULD BE DOING THAT. HOST: WHAT IS THE BEST APPROACH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY IN THE UNITED STATES? GUEST: THE BEST APPROACH
00:09:56
HOST
IS -- THEY SHOULD TALK TO AN IMMIGRATION LAWYER AND START BRINGING THEMSELVES RIGHT WITH THE LAW. I KNOW THAT
00:10:03
GUEST
PROCESS IS EXTREMELY LONG. WE, AS GOVERNMENT, SHOULD MAKE THE PROCESS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM TO BE FULLY FUNDED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR DHAKA OR TOP A -- OR DAPA, START PAYING TAXES IN BEING AN EVERYDAY AMERICAN. I INSURED -- I ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO TO THE PROCESS AND I THINK IT IS TEDIOUS AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYBODY. A LOT DO NOT HAVE THAT OPTION BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FAR BEHIND AND THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY MAKE ENDS MEET AS MANY OF THEM HAVE KIDS, YOUNG AMERICAN CITIZENS AS CHILDREN. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE GETTING A BETTER LIFE. A LOT OF THE COUNTRIES THEY BELONG TO ARE NOT SAFE TO GO BACK TO. HOST: FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT GO UNDER, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WILL PUT THEMSELVES IN THE PROCESS?
00:11:05
HOST
GUEST: IF YOU ARE IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT PAPERS, YOU ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF GETTING
00:11:12
GUEST
JOBS LEGALLY. YOU WILL BE EXPLOITED. AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER AT SOME POINT. WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THE PROCESS FOR PEOPLE TO BECOME RESIDENTS. IN THE MEANTIME, I'M COURAGE THEM TO DO IT ANYWAY. HOST: PAUL, FROM VIRGINIA. CALLER: I CONSIDER MYSELF AN
00:11:38
HOST
INDEPENDENT ALTHOUGH I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. THE JOHN F. KENNEDY DEMOCRAT
00:11:43
CALLER
SAYS ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. MY COMMENT AND QUESTION. WE HAVE SO MANY AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE OUT OF WORK AND CANNOT GET JOBS. WHY IN THE HELL DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE ILLEGALS COME UP HERE AND DO THE JOBS? THESE AMERICANS ARE SITTING AT HOME, SOME OF THEM NOT GETTING NO MONEY. IT DON'T MAKE SENSE THAT YOU BRING THESE PEOPLE UP HERE AND LET THEM DO JOBS AND OBAMA IS GIVING A $3000 INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR BUSINESSES TO HIRE THESE PEOPLE? THIS IS AMERICA. YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST. GUEST: FIRST ABOUT YOUR $3000 COMMENT. IT IS WRONG. THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
00:12:39
GUEST
SECONDLY, THE PREMISE THAT ALL IMMIGRATION IS COMING FROM MEXICO IS ALSO WRONG. WE HAD IMMIGRATION COMING FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. LASTLY, IMMIGRANTS DO NOT TAKE JOBS IN THE SENSE THAT EVERY TIME WE HIRE AN IMMIGRANT IN AMERICA LOSES A JOB. MANY THE JOBS THEY ARE DOING ARE QUITE DIFFICULT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGRICULTURAL WORK, THIS IS BACKBREAKING WORK. A LOT OF TIMES, THOSE JOBS GO UNFULFILLED IF THEY DO NOT GET IMMIGRANT -- MIGRANT IMMIGRANT WORKERS COMING UP FROM CENTRAL AMERICA OR MEXICO. THESE ARE THE JOBS THAT PAY NINE DOLLARS PER HOUR. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE ENTREPRENEURIAL. THEY START A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN HIGHER A LOT OF PEOPLE. I DO NOT THINK IT IS A NET NEGATIVE TO THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE IMMIGRATION. SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDING ISSUE. THE POPULATION THAT IS COMING OUT AS IMMIGRANTS ARE PAYING INTO SOCIAL SECURITY AND NOT TAKING OUT. THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY BECAUSE SOCIAL SECURITY COULD GO BUST. THAT IS STILL A BIG ISSUE. THEY ARE PAYING TAXES. HOST: ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA. RYAN, DEMOCRATS LINED. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
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HOST
I AM A DEMOCRAT. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM
00:14:08
CALLER
WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BUT, I FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY AND EVERY TIME I DID SOMETHING ILLEGALLY AND GOT IN TROUBLE FOR IT, I WAS PUNISHED. I WENT TO JAIL. I LOST MY SOCIAL SECURITY. I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE BASQUE -- HAVE TO TAKE THE BACK SEAT TO THESE PEOPLE. I HEARD ONE PEOPLE TELL ME GO BACK TO MY OWN COUNTRY. I WAS BORN HERE IN AMERICA. I HOPE WE CAN FIX THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM. GUEST: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD BE WITHOUT
00:14:53
GUEST
ANY PENALTY IF YOU DID COME TO THIS COUNTRY IN AN UNAUTHORIZED MANNER. WE ARE SAYING YOU SHOULD PAY A FAN -- A PENALTY, A FINE. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PUNISH ANYONE VERSUS ANYONE ELSE. WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY RIGHT. IF YOU ARE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT PAPERS, WE ASK THAT YOU LIVE BY THE LAW. EVEN IN THE IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL, WE HAVE A PENALTY PHASE TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT SOMEONE CROSSED WITHOUT PERMISSION. HOST: BONNIE, WEST VIRGINIA, REPUBLICAN LINE. YOU ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I
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HOST
WOULD LIKE
00:15:38
CALLER
TO SAY ONE THING. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING TV, C-SPAN FOR YEARS AND YEARS. I LIVED IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND WAS POLITICALLY ACTIVE. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT I SEE NOW IS, HERE ARE THESE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE WE ARE A DEMOCRACY, WHY IS IT THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN GAIN VOTES OR GET OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY TO ACCEPT IMMIGRANTS WHEN YOU STAND UP THERE SAYING, THOSE ARE REPUBLICANS AND YOU ARE PITTING -- PEOPLE THINK THERE IS ONE PARTY OF HATE AND ONE PARTY THAT LOVES YOU. YOU CANNOT PICK PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY -- ONE DEMOCRAT AGAINST A REPUBLICAN. THESE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW ACIDS FROM ELEPHANTS AND WE NEED TO TEACH THEM. THE ELEPHANT IS THE PARTY OF THIS AND THE DEMOCRAT IS THE PARTY OF THAT. GUEST: IT HAS BEEN SIMPLE TO EDUCATE THEM THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FOR EDGE OF -- IMMIGRATION REFORM.
00:17:00
GUEST
SP 1070 TOOK AWAY AND STARTED A LOT OF THE RACIAL PROFILING PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR IN ARIZONA. AS A PARTY PERSON, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DID IT BY THEIR ACTIONS. WE INTRODUCED THIS BILL THIS YEAR TO DEFUND HOMELAND SECURITY IN ORDER TO TAKE AWAY STATUS FROM MILLIONS OF YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE CURRENTLY PAYING TAXES AND BEING GOOD MEMBERS OF SOCIETY. THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IF THEY DID NOT DO THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE TO SAY IT. I HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE. MANY PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE IN MIXED FAMILIES. SOME OF THEM WILL BE HERE LEGALLY AND SOME WILL NOT BE HERE LEGALLY. SOME ARE MARRIED TO CITIZENS. THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. WHEN I TELL THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TAKING AWAY THEIR STATUS, THEIR PAPERS AFTER BEING HERE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR TWO YEARS AND PAYING TAXES, THEY CARE. HOST: DO YOU THINK THERE IS AN APPROACH THAT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAN WORK TOGETHER? GUEST:
00:18:14
HOST
IT IS CALLED COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION. IT WAS PASSED BY THE SENATE AND A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS AND SENATORS. LET'S DISCUSS THAT BILL.
00:18:21
GUEST
IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE SENATE. THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT BRING IT TO THE CONGRESSIONAL FLOOR. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN APPROACH TO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM. HOST: BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU HEAR THE TERM AMNESTY. GUEST: I THINK IT IS A BUZZWORD.
00:18:40
HOST
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR AMNESTY. THE PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE
00:18:44
GUEST
DAKA OR DAPA WILL HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TEMPORARY STATUS UNTIL WE GET COPPERHEADS OF IMMIGRATION REFORM. HOST: GLENN, INDEPENDENT LINE. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I'M GOING TO TALK
00:19:05
HOST
00:19:07
CALLER
ABOUT DISPLACING 30 MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT POPULATION THAT IS HERE RIGHT NOW. WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THEIR TAX ID NUMBERS? SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE? IT IS HARD TO GO TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE NOWADAYS OR THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT POPULATION. ALL THIS MONEY THAT IS BEING SPENT ON THE ILLEGAL POPULATION. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THEY ARE OVERSTAYING VISAS WHERE THEY ARE DOCUMENTED. IN CALIFORNIA, THEY ARE GIVING OUT LICENSES TO UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE WITH NO DRIVING TESTS. WE HAVE GOT TO GET CONTROL OF OUR COUNTRY. WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT WERE BROUGHT HERE WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG. YES, THEY DO NEED A PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY. GUEST: A COUPLE THINGS. TAX ID
00:20:08
GUEST
DOES COME FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY DEPARTMENT. IT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR NORMAL SECURE -- SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY YOU AS A RECIPIENT. THAT MEANS YOU ARE PAYING TAXES. THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE AND THE HOSPITAL THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE "ILLEGAL" IS WRONG. THAT IS YOUR VIEW BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY A DIFFERENT SKIN COLOR FROM YOU. I'VE HEARD THE STATEMENT BEFORE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE PROBABLY CITIZENS. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IN CALIFORNIA, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO A DRIVING TEST. AND ABIDE BY THE LAW TO GET CAR INSURANCE. HOST: OUR GUEST SERVES THE SEVENTH DISTRICT OF ARIZONA. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED IN YOUR FIRST WEEK OF WASHINGTON? GUEST: IT GETS
00:20:54
HOST
COLD HERE. HOST: AS FAR AS THE PROCESS IN THE HOUSE.
00:21:00
GUEST
GUEST: I RESPECT A LOT OF THE MEN AND WOMEN
00:21:04
HOST
THAT SERVE. BOTH SIDES WANT TO DO THEIR BEST FOR THE COUNTRY AND THEIR
00:21:09
GUEST
COMMUNITY. MORE I SEE THE TIME COMMITMENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE RESPECT. A LOT OF US ARE TRAVELING FROM VERY FAR FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. I AM LUCKY I HAVE A DIRECT FLIGHT, BUT THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS THAT HAVE TO GET BACK AND FOURTH TO THEIR STATE AND FAMILIES. IT IS HARD WORK FOR THEM. IT SHOWS HOW DEDICATED BOTH SIDES ARE TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY BETTER. HOST: YOUR DESCRIBED AS A MILLENNIAL OF SORTS. GUEST: IT IS AWESOME TO SIT DOWN
00:21:43
HOST
AND TALK TO THEM. THE HISTORY THEY WILL TELL YOU.
00:21:48
GUEST
IT WILL SURPRISE YOU. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO JOHN LEWIS A LOT. I TALKED TO NANCY PELOSI. THE HISTORY WHERE THEY TELL YOU ABOUT OTHER MEMBERS AND WHAT HAVE SEEN. IT IS INSPIRING. FOR SOME BUT HE THAT GREW UP READING A LOT ABOUT POLITICS TO BE HERE IS A GREAT JOY. IT IS GREAT TO BE AN AMERICAN. HOST: AT YOUR SWEARING IN CEREMONY, YOU INVITED A LIBRARIAN AND A FORMER BOSS. GUEST: MY SCHOOL LIBRARIAN, I INVITED BECAUSE IN ORDER
00:22:19
HOST
FOR ME TO AFFORD COLLEGE, I NEEDED TO STUDY A LOT TO MAKE SURE I
00:22:23
GUEST
PASSED MY ACPS AND SATS. MY SCHOOL LIBRARY AND WOULD LET ME INTO THE SCHOOL LIBRARY A LOT AND STUDY ALL THE TIME WITH THESE BOOKS THAT I COULD NOT AFFORD TO BUY. I HAD A BOSS WHEN I WORKED AT A RESTAURANT, I WAS A LINE COOK. HE WAS A GOOD GUY. HE TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT HARD WORK. WHILE WORKING, HE WOULD LET ME FILL OUT MY COLLEGE AND FINANCIAL AID APPLICATIONS. I WANTED HIM TO SEE -- I WANTED THEM TO SEE ALL THE DID FOR ME IS THE REASON I'M HERE. HOST: RANDY, DEMOCRATS LINE. CALLER:
00:23:07
HOST
CONGRESSMAN, MY MOTHER HAS EIGHT BOYS, SEVEN WENT THROUGH THE VIETNAM WAR AT THE SAME TIME.
00:23:14
CALLER
ALL OF US WENT TO THE SERVICE FOR ECONOMIC REASONS. I FEEL LIKE I DO NOT NEED NOBODY TO THANK ME FOR MY SERVICE BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING I HAD TO DO AT THE TIME. NOW, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE FIGHTING A CIVIL WAR ALL OVER AGAIN. NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THE OTHER COUNTRIES COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY, HAVING BABIES, GOING BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES JUST SO THEIR BABIES CAN HAVE CITIZENSHIP. EVERYTHING IS FOCUSED ON THESE HISPANICS. I USED TO OWN A CONVENIENT STORE AND I SAW ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE. IRISHMEN TELLING ME THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS. YOU, AS A CONGRESSMAN, -- CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE PROBLEMS OF OTHER COUNTRIES? GUEST: I DO NOT QUITE GET WHAT HE WAS AXING -- WHAT HE WAS ASKING.
00:24:25
GUEST
AS A MARINE, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE THE SONS OR DAUGHTERS OF UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE SERVING. SOME HAVE DIED OVERSEAS. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILITARY FAMILIES, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF MILITARY FAMILIES ARE MIXED MARRIAGES OR SITUATIONS WITH A LOT OF THESE UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITIES. ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF OUR BORDER STATES, A LOT OF MILITARY FORCES THERE ARCHER ON FROM A BIG POPULATION OF PEOPLE. HOST: FROM RED OAK, TEXAS. RICHARD. REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
00:25:13
HOST
I'M 54 YEARS
00:25:16
CALLER
OLD. I'VE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE FOR 35 YEARS. YOU CAN NO LONGER GET A JOB IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE BECAUSE ALL IT IS IS HISPANICS. I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL OR WHAT. ALL THEY DO IS SPEAK SPANISH, STICK WITH ONE ANOTHER. I FEEL LIKE AN ILLEGAL IN MY OWN COUNTRY NOW. I HAVE GOT A FELONY FROM BACK WHEN I WAS 17 YEARS OLD SO I RELY ON THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE. NOW, AT 54 YEARS OLD, I WORKING FOR $10 PER HOUR BECAUSE I'M HAVING TO COMPETE WITH THESE UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS. THEY ARE NOT UNDOCUMENTED, THEY HAVE WORK PERMITS. THEY WORK FOR NOTHING. WE DO NOT HAVE 11 MILLION IMMIGRANTS PICKING OUR CROPS. THEY ARE TAKING OUR JOBS. GUEST: WHEN IT COMES -- WITH THE COPPERHEADS OF IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL COMES THROUGH, PART OF THAT IS UNDERSTANDING WE NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE.
00:26:15
GUEST
WE DO NOT WANT OUR U.S. COMPANIES USING -- YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY OR NOT, BUT THEY ARE HISPANIC SO THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY ARE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN A UNION. AS THE FAMILY OF UNION WORKERS, $10 WORKING CONSTRUCTION IS RIDICULOUS. YOU ARE KILLING YOUR BODY. MY FAMILY GREW UP IN CONSTRUCTION AND ARE PART OF THE CARPENTERS UNION. THEIR AVERAGE SALARY IS $30 PER HOUR AND THERE'S MORE PROTECTION. HOST: WHAT ARE YOUR ISSUES SPECIFIC TO ARMED SERVICES? GUEST: WITH SEQUESTRATION HAPPENING, THERE
00:27:03
HOST
SEEMS TO BE A MOVEMENT TO CUT BENEFITS FOR
00:27:06
GUEST
MILITARY PERSONNEL. THERE NEEDS TO BE A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WILL DO IF WE START CUTTING BENEFITS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RELYING ON THIS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THEY WERE PROMISED THIS. WE EITHER HAVE TO BECOME ADULTS AND AND SEQUESTRATION -- AND AND SEQUESTRATION OR GO THROUGH THE PENTAGON BUDGET AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE GLUT THAT EXISTS. CUTTING MILITARY BENEFITS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. HOST: HE IS A FRESHMAN DEMOCRAT FROM ARIZONA. RUBEN GALLEGO. HE SERVES
00:27:43
HOST
AS THE HISPANIC CONGRESSIONAL CAUCUS WHIP. JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME. >>

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